Subject: Who taught Leung Ting? Author: gardenhose Date: 7/16/2002 7:00:09 AM IP: 4.63.188.234
I've been reading some threads that say Leung Ting was NOT taught by Yip Man. If so, who did he learn from? Leung Sheung?

Subject: Re: Who taught Leung Ting? Author: OMT Date: 7/16/2002 11:01:00 AM IP: 205.188.197.41

Leung Ting's first teacher was his own uncle, Cheng Pak from his mom's side of the family. Ting had studied under him for about two years before joining in Leung Sheung's class as a regular member for about four to six months, mostly Ting was training under some of Leung Sheung's students, that's the reason Leung Sheung had told the HK reporters, Ting was never his student, because Ting had never gotten a chance to feel Leung Sheung's hands. Two months before Yip Man's death, one of Yip's students went to visit Yip Man for a lesson, Leung Ting had begged this guy to take him along to see Yip Man, so Leung Ting had worked out a plan ahead to have someone hiding behind Yip Man's house, took some photos with Yip Man. Later, Leung Ting used those photos on his books to make some false claims of himself as Yip Man's closed door student. But Yip Man had never took Leung Ting as anything, Ting was at Yip Man's house for about an hour, that's the first time and also the last time Leung Ting had ever set his foot at Yip Man's house. Later in front of the Yip Man's dead body, Leung Ting was trying to put on another gimmick to have a photo with his white waist band on, but Yip Man's student Mak Po had already found out Ting was up to no good, therefore Mak Po went to tell Leung Ting to take off the white waist band. In the Chinese tradition only Yip Man's students could wear the white waist band(As a son who pays deepest respect to his father in Chinese kung fu custume), for the grand student like Ting was only allowed to wear the black arm band as Yip Man's grand student. There's a photo somewhere to prove this incident had happened in HK. Soon after Yip Man's death, Leung Ting used some of these photos at yip Man's house to promote himself as a closed door student of Yip Man in Germany. That's the story of Leung Ting.

Subject: Re: Re: Who taught Leung Ting? Author: Leung Ting Date: 7/18/2002 12:15:00 AM IP: 80.74.0.1
U fool! Have u not seen the fotos in "Roots of WingTsun"? or have u not been to www.leungting.com The fotos thing is rubbish and old news - even LT didnt care for the rumours - cause thats all they are - rumours!

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Who taught Leung Ting? Author: OMT Date: 7/18/2002 11:12:43 PM IP: 64.12.96.12

Why did Leung Ting replace his head with the reporter's head? The reasons and background checks... 1, Even Leung Ting had managed to shoot a few photos at Yip Man's house to prove to the public that he was there one time but that didn't have enough weight to prove any relation to Yip Man as his teacher. 2, According to the Chinese kungfu tradition, only the real students like William Cheung and Bruce Lee would be allowed to have their Sifu posted with them together. 3, Leung Ting was Yip Man's great grand student, he wasn't important enough to be somebody in the wing chun family. 4, In front of many Yip Man's students like Chris Chan, Victor Ken, Leung Ting had always address them as his great Kungfu uncle. 5. During 1975, not too many of Yip Man's students could speak English, someone like David Peterson wasn't even a wing chun man. So no one could tell the world what's really going on with the Yip Man's wing chun family. 6. Under all these conditions, Leung Ting wanted something to prove himself as an important person in Germany. So, he gambled with this idea of fake photo to make himself as somebody in the Yip Man's family. 7. So, Leung Ting went to Germany, opening up many Mcdojo along with Kieth Kerspecht, suddenly, he's had a huge numbers of WT-Sheep. So his dream comes true, **the first fake wing tsun kung fu masta**. 8. About twenty-some years later, suddenly some HK newspaper man had recovered the original photo of the reporter with Yip Man together at his house. Then Leung Ting almost had a heart attack and he was into hiding for months. 9, No one had seen Leung Ting's face at the first world Ving Tsun convention in Hong Hong in 1999. Why? good question...