Subject: Ken Chung & Augustine Fong? Author: Jazzman Date: 5/9/2002 3:57:59 AM IP: 152.163.206.181

Originally posted by red5angel to yuanfen "Do you know if Augustine Fong and Ken Chung have ever touched hands?" Jeeze, what's the BIG deal if Ken Chung hvae ever put Fong in place? Fong is a nobody wihtin Yip Man's family, and his fake wing chun is a complete joke. Ken Chung should hvae a very easy time with Fong. But Ken Chung's boy, red5angel is a wing chun newbie, the monkey became the king whlie the tiger's away. A question to red5angel, hvae you ever heard of Chris Chan's name? Next time if you wnat to put down somebody, go home and ask your sihingdai what had happened between Chris Chan and Ken Chung years ago? And why do Ken Chung and Ben Der hvae been hiding from Chris Chan now? Not sure if you would know the inside stroy. Just my thoughs Jazzman

Subject: Re: Ken Chung Author: xxx Date: 5/11/2002 2:38:47 AM IP: 64.95.96.230

Since Chris Chan knows where Ken teaches and also sees him whenever they are at the local tournament events and dinners, what the hell are you talking about? Sounds like you are the ones with "issues", if this is between two teachers shouldn't you butt out? What's up with all the messenger boyz like you spreading all sorts of crap all over the place? How do we even know you are a Chris Chan student? Given all the BS on this forum you probably are just repeating more crap trying to stir things up. After all, if Chan had something to say or complain about, surely he would just meet directly with Chung and not go thru this rumor mill for resolution. All the posts like this from pretend Chan students read like a BAD KUNG FU MOVIE PLOT. You don't actually expect any of us to take this seriously do you? Chan has a telephone and an automobile and I'm sure would just speak for himself after all this time. If not, care to explain why not?

Subject: Re: Re: Ken Chung Author: NYDave Date: 5/12/2002 2:00:15 PM IP: 205.188.197.28

I'm only at the start of Biu Jee in TWC so please give me some slack here. Would anyone care to discuss the differences between Ken Chung and Augustine Fong's skill level? I've heard of Ken Chung's camp ran into trouble with Chris Chan's school before, something like Chris Chan's student had punched Ken Chung flying, and he couldn't do a damn thing about it. I thought it was really funny apparently. I haven't seen any of Augustine Fong's videos yet, but I'm gonna buy his fake WC videos anyway.

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Ken Chung Author: Glen Date: 5/18/2002 3:43:06 PM IP: 205.188.197.39

Let me put it this way, Ken's skill is 10 times better than Augustine Fongs. Even Ken's ex-student Hoover Chan once said his own students had always defected Fong's students in public as well in private. I saw some old tapes Ken was very proud of Hoover Chan in public. Amongst all the students, Hoover Chan is the best in Ken's wing chun family, his skill is much better than other ken's students -Pat Au, Eddie Chong and Ben Der.

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ken Chung Author: CLF Date: 5/21/2002 10:30:07 PM IP: 64.12.103.171

Your sifu Kenneth Chung is famous. Many famous people are surrounded by admirers and haters...unfortunately, we can't really change that fact. What I dislike about Kenneth Chung's people, they like to put down others, but couldn't back up their claims like Chris Chan. Chris Chan and Bruce Lee are two true masters, and they could back up everything they said. I've known a few of Kenneth Chung's students, they have said many bad things about many people, Chris Chan, Robert Chu, Augustine Fong...etc.

Subject: Re: Chan Claim backups Author: Jun Fan Date: 5/25/2002 2:25:03 AM IP: 64.95.96.230

"What I dislike about Kenneth Chung's people, they like to put down others, but couldn't back up their claims like Chris Chan." Back them up how? Where is the proof of Chris Chan's close friendship with Bruce Lee? This is claimed on television by Chan. Where is the proof? Please back up. Why did his school have a name change for a time without mentioning the words Wing Chun? Please "back up"? Why do DIRECT FIRST GENERATION Bruce Lee students claim Bruce thought Chan's Wing Chun was crap? Go check the interviews on "Temple of the Unknown". Are they mistaken? Please back up. Where are the OTHER Wing Chun teachers who acknowledge Chan as a senior student and not just another teenager in class in Hong Kong? Please back up? How LONG did Chris Chan study with Ip Man? Please back up. Who did Chris Chan learn Bil Jee from? Please back up. When did Chris Chan learn Bil Jee form? Was this in HK or in the US? Panther Videotape? Please Back up. Who did Chris Chan finally learn the dummy from? Was this in HK or in the US? Panther Videotape? Please Back up. No messenger sifus need apply. Keep your fists of fury in your pants. Backup means FACTS not ANGER OR THREATS. Plain and simple. No threatening very old men in Fatshan. Just show the facts on uswingchun.com.

Subject: Re: Re: Chan Claim backups Author: CLF Date: 5/26/2002 9:21:11 AM IP: 205.188.197.28

Why did you ask such stupid questions? Chris Chan was a private student of Yip Man, like William Cheung, Yip Man had taugh many secret techniques to Chris Chan. Once I saw a copy of Dim Mak book at Chris Chan school, that Dim Mak book used to belong to Dr.LeungJan>LeungBik>YipMan>ChrisChan. Now, do you understand why Ken Chung is a nobody, because Chris Chan is his Sibak(kungfu-uncle). Even Leung Ting didn't dare to say a single word when Chris Chan was on the same room. All these Leung Sheung's boys: Ken Chung and Leung Ting are clowns! While Chris Chan was showing his one inch power to the Chinese taiji master Chow Yuan-Lung from Shanghai at the Far East Rest, where was Ken Chung? Ken Chung and Y.C.Wong were hiding on the conner, they couldn't even dare to make eye to eye contact with Chris Chan, why? It's because Chris Chan is the real wing chun master, Ken Chung, Y.C.Wong, LOL, they have no real fighting experience in their whole life. How about that time Ken Chung walked in Ron Sifu's hotel room at 3 AM, why did he back off from Ron Sifu? It's because Ron Sifu had his fist on his face, one stupid move, there would be another story? So, John Adam and all you boys get a life somewhere else? Chris Chan is the greatest wing chun master ever alive. A single punch Chris Chan could send Wayne Newton twenty feets away on the Las Vagsa stage. Do Ken Chung or any of you clowns have that kind of power like Chris Chan? If not, please shut up and go to shine Chris Chan's shoes. Amen!

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Chan Claim backups Author: RHC Date: 6/11/2002 9:38:44 PM IP: 209.91.213.173

To start off with who is CLF and who is he calling clowns. Well if you were trolling you set the hook on a shark. You call LT a clown listen if I was not so far from the west coast I would try and find you and kick your ass for all of the disrespect to have chosen to fill that shit eating mouth of yours. If you are good enough to call LT and all thease people clowns!!! I have got a job for you! Go to LA? and you dont even have to mess with Emin, go in and pick a fight with one of his instructors . The kicking you will recieve will be hoooorendous so to give you a measure of the beating that you would recieve from one of the people that you are calling a clown.